Awkward Conversations...
Yesterday Kiersten White did a really great post about something that happens to me all the time. (I loved her post because she managed to formulate everything Iād been thinking and somehow put it to words. On paper! Itās like sheās a professional writer or something!)
Anyway, itās always amazing to me how a conversation can go from āYouāre a writer?ā to āMy second grade teacher said I should be a writerā in about 2.4 seconds. Flat.
And itās all good. Great, in fact. Iām happy for you, really I am. Iām not all that comfortable talking about myself in the first place. Especially when that same conversation starts to steer into what I like to call āawkward territoryā. And, no, Iām not even talking about the ballsy āSo, how much was your advance?ā conversation, Iām talking about the otherā¦āHow ābout I send you some of my stuff and you can tell me what you think?ā
Umm, no.
Okay, I didn't mean for that to sound bitchy, let me try againā¦umm, no.
How about this? Umm, no!
No? Still not any better?
Yeah, well, thatās because Iām probably not gonna read it. For several reasons.
Besides the obvious legal ramifications (you know that pesky being-accused-of-plagiarism thing), Iām busy. Really busy. Really, REEAAALLLY BUSY! I think thereās this misnomer that a writer sits in his or her office (or in a really comfy āreading chairā) and writes a book, and then they just send it in to their editor, who edits it, and voila! A book is born!
Not so.
Hereās what really goes down: Said editor sends said writer editorial notes, with which said writer busts their freaking hump in an effort to satisfy said editorās needs, wants, and innermost desires for that first draft. Oh yeah, you heard me: First. Draft. Because, yes, there will probably be a second, and possibly a third, round of revisions.
You: And then the writer gets to just kick back and collect royalty checks, right?
Me: Umm, yeah, not so much.
Then you do your copyedits. You learn phrases like āStetā and you decide how many āwhomās a YA novel can withstand, grammatically correct or not, before it sounds like a throwback to Jane Austen. You pour over each and every single line until your eyes feel like they're hemorrhaging.
You: And then youāre doneā¦?
Me: Youāre getting closer now, but not quite. Next your lovely little manuscript is sent off to the typesetter, and you receive these gorgeously crafted pages as they will (eventually) appear in the bound books. Beautiful fonts, pretty little art designs created just for the pages of your book, your Acknowledgements in all their glory. Every single page of it!
But, wait! You see mistakes on those pages! Thatās right, these are just your First Pass Pages. And yet again, you get to go through character-by-character seeking out every little error in need of correction. You send those in, and depending on your publisher, you will receive Second Pass Pages as well, another opportunity to work until your eyes bleed.
In the meantime, youāve been working on your next book, or maybe that oneās already done and you've reached the revision stage. In the meantime, youāre also working on another book.
What Iām saying is that itās never finished. Iām always working. On something. Ask my husband. Or my kids. Look at my houseā¦the proof is in the laundry. (Or the poorly stocked kitchen).
And if that isnāt enough to deter you from trying to pass me the poem you scribbled on the back of your Dennyās napkin, hereās another: Iām not very good at it. Thereās a reason I never joined a Crit Group. Iām like your mom, Iāll try to frame it and hang it on my fridge. I want to see the good in everything you do (especially if I like you), which isnāt at all useful to someone who is serious about getting published. I am the Paula Abdul of writing.
So, save yourself (and me) a lot of grief. For the love of god, ask me about my advance. Just donāt ask me to read your manuscript!
Anyway, itās always amazing to me how a conversation can go from āYouāre a writer?ā to āMy second grade teacher said I should be a writerā in about 2.4 seconds. Flat.
And itās all good. Great, in fact. Iām happy for you, really I am. Iām not all that comfortable talking about myself in the first place. Especially when that same conversation starts to steer into what I like to call āawkward territoryā. And, no, Iām not even talking about the ballsy āSo, how much was your advance?ā conversation, Iām talking about the otherā¦āHow ābout I send you some of my stuff and you can tell me what you think?ā
Umm, no.
Okay, I didn't mean for that to sound bitchy, let me try againā¦umm, no.
How about this? Umm, no!
No? Still not any better?
Yeah, well, thatās because Iām probably not gonna read it. For several reasons.
Besides the obvious legal ramifications (you know that pesky being-accused-of-plagiarism thing), Iām busy. Really busy. Really, REEAAALLLY BUSY! I think thereās this misnomer that a writer sits in his or her office (or in a really comfy āreading chairā) and writes a book, and then they just send it in to their editor, who edits it, and voila! A book is born!
Not so.
Hereās what really goes down: Said editor sends said writer editorial notes, with which said writer busts their freaking hump in an effort to satisfy said editorās needs, wants, and innermost desires for that first draft. Oh yeah, you heard me: First. Draft. Because, yes, there will probably be a second, and possibly a third, round of revisions.
You: And then the writer gets to just kick back and collect royalty checks, right?
Me: Umm, yeah, not so much.
Then you do your copyedits. You learn phrases like āStetā and you decide how many āwhomās a YA novel can withstand, grammatically correct or not, before it sounds like a throwback to Jane Austen. You pour over each and every single line until your eyes feel like they're hemorrhaging.
You: And then youāre doneā¦?
Me: Youāre getting closer now, but not quite. Next your lovely little manuscript is sent off to the typesetter, and you receive these gorgeously crafted pages as they will (eventually) appear in the bound books. Beautiful fonts, pretty little art designs created just for the pages of your book, your Acknowledgements in all their glory. Every single page of it!
But, wait! You see mistakes on those pages! Thatās right, these are just your First Pass Pages. And yet again, you get to go through character-by-character seeking out every little error in need of correction. You send those in, and depending on your publisher, you will receive Second Pass Pages as well, another opportunity to work until your eyes bleed.
In the meantime, youāve been working on your next book, or maybe that oneās already done and you've reached the revision stage. In the meantime, youāre also working on another book.
What Iām saying is that itās never finished. Iām always working. On something. Ask my husband. Or my kids. Look at my houseā¦the proof is in the laundry. (Or the poorly stocked kitchen).

So, save yourself (and me) a lot of grief. For the love of god, ask me about my advance. Just donāt ask me to read your manuscript!
Comments
I'm sure you'll soon hear from - if you haven't already - "friends" who want you to look at their query letter or manuscript, or worse, write THEIR idea for them. Cuz, you know, you don't have any ideas of your own, right?
Well put, all of this ; )
Kiersten - Right back at ya...love, love, loved your post yesterday!
Patti - :)
So about that advance...now you've hired a maid to do the laundry in your brand new mansion, yes?
Frankie - I'm emailing you now.
LiLa - What? She's the nice one. Better than the Simon, right???
:)
But I hope to experience it soon.
(crosses fingers)
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Oh, and Jess - *clapping the palms of my hands without touching my fingers* You (and your manuscript) look beautiful tonight!
Then I reread that book and cried a little. And then started on another one.
I haven't gotten the "will you read mine" yet. I think I just don't have that prestige yet. :) So good for you for getting to that level!!
Loved the Paula Abdul part! I can see that being so you!
Now, about that advance...
LMJ - I officially go on the record as saying: send me your sonnet. I will totally read *that*!!!